World of Stunting
Forum Front Desk => Suggestions => Topic started by: Rikimaru on November 25, 2010, 08:13:02 pm
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Hello people of World of Stunting,
Today the administrators have all come together and would like your opinions, about what you want World of Stunting to turn into, and how it will react!
Over the past few weeks we've had a huge overhaul on how we are trying to make it so you, the players of World of Stunting, the heart in the chest of this community, want the server and forums to be like.
Now we know that some of your aren't happy about the way certain things have been going, and we want to have your opinions about what you want changed, and how it should be changed. This does include the Administrators that we currently have, so please be sure to think, before you type.
We can't promise however, that everything will be improvised for every suggestion made, but we will do our best to make the community better.
Please post your suggestions below, only serious suggestions will be taken into consideration, and mature feedback IS required, anything less than mature feedback will NOT be taken into consideration.
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I Think that We should have a Board for suggesting Who we would like as an Admin/Mod.
And The Administrator team Could look into that player and ask around.
My suggestion, Ownige
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I Think that We should have a Board for suggesting Who we would like as an Admin/Mod.
And The Administrator team Could look into that player and ask around.
My suggestion, Ownige
Popularity contest pls.
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I Think that We should have a Board for suggesting Who we would like as an Admin/Mod.
And The Administrator team Could look into that player and ask around.
My suggestion, Ownige
Popularity contest pls.
Not only popularity, but players have NEVER had a choice in who became moderator.
But if we need moderators, we need people are know the rules, follow them, and can /report alot. With some of the players we have as requlars, I think maturity is a hard thing to judge on. It's not like alot of the players who are left are "prime cuts" for moderators, but we have to work with what we have.
As for what I think we need, we need the houses and gangs to be fixed. And for accounts to be restored. That is the biggest complaint from what I have heard. We should also add a time when all the server owners, and trial mods get on at once, to answer questions. Owners for the updates and future and such, and trials, to test how they handle large crowds, can handle questions, and if when needed, they can be mature. This would let alot of players ask what's on their minds, and the owners can get closer to the "community"
Speaking of community, we need to reestablish it. WOS used to be a friendly place. People helped others, people taught stunting and drifting, and players would often answer /rule questions. I made alot of friends here, shabz, ihopeyoudrown, flippa, mike_knight, oh_shit, xcan, more then I can list. And I made friends with moderators like tina, brendon, and rikimaru. And that was all before I was ever close to being a moderator. We to get back the...the friendlyness, of WOS. Where everyone had fun. Everyone could have a good time, and we had parties and such. If I remember back way into like june, I remember being with a huge group of players, on a boat at /t beach, having fun and /pissing on things, and chatting, and THAT is what we need. The friendly, "we are good people" mood back to the server. It was always my friends I loved about WOS.
(please note:The immature comments in this statement, like /pissing on things, were just intended as fun. WOS can't just be "uptight mature" all the time, you have to have some fun. And players open up ALOT more if you have fun with them, and be a friend, rather then a mature person who watches over them like a hawk, it scares them.)
I think in a short list:
Fix houses
Fix gangs
Bring WOS back into a friendly community again
And WOS should be back to 150 players normal, and things should mello out.
Edited in for lols:If you go read "farewell friends" by slyfox, you can find a PERFECT example between me and flippa of that "friendly" community I'm talking about. Were we just get along. :] THATS IT! That's the words I was looking for! WOS needs to stop fighting about updates, and stop fighting about moderators! We need to GET ALONG! Be friends! We need to have a party! Go and drink some /beers and hit on the girls! That is what WOS needs right now, is some fun.
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So let me get this straight dale, Your idea of "having fun" is getting drunk on a game and make women feel like they are just objects? To me that isnt fun.
Riki I bow down to you for making this topic even though I was there when you made it :) But, on topic, like Dale said i think all we need now is Hidden's big update. But since Ryan and Hidden are arguing, i dont think that will happen anytime soon.
Regards,
PaTt.
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Dale, that is the perfect example of feedback we're looking for. Prime example.
There's much content already, and we will be discussing this shortly, please, keep the feedback coming. As far as Hiddens update goes, I'll be helping him with that as well.
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So let me get this straight dale, Your idea of "having fun" is getting drunk on a game and make women feel like they are just objects? To me that isnt fun.
Riki I bow down to you for making this topic even though I was there when you made it :) But, on topic, like Dale said i think all we need now is Hidden's big update. But since Ryan and Hidden are arguing, i dont think that will happen anytime soon.
Regards,
PaTt.
PaTt::I was making a point, of a party. WOS made me stay, because I loved the people.
Riki:I have many many ideas and updates we could do/add to bring WOS closer and stop the fighting. But it is more then I can type out without taking up tons of your threads space. But one good way to find alot of the information like I found, is maybe make a player-friendly moderator. I'm not ripping on anyone here, but most people see current moderators as like cops. Their kinda shy, and not really willing to be open with their ideas to moderators. But, if we took someone from their group, who knows the players, but knows the rules, who can be mature when needed, enough that they can preform moderator task, but is immature enough to get along with the players, a much needed link betwen players/moderators could be established. That moderator would probably be hard stressed from having to deal with both sides, and weight both sides arguments, and deside what can and can't be considered, like a negotiator, or judge. The moderator can listen to both sides thoughts, opinions, and ideas, weight there value, and bring up to the owners what can be brought up, and explain to players how busy and hard working the owners are. By acting as a go-between from owners/admins to players, the flow of thoughts and ideas, as well as feelings, would pass much smoother.
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A lot has gone down since Rymich got it but I think that we can get this server up like the way it was with just a bit of commitment from everyone. It seems like many people are complaining a lot but not many people are doing anything to help.
If we at minimum get this forum post up and going to atleast make even the slightest chance of a start to what we are heading for, I reckon we would be able to do it. But, like I said, we will need a ton of supporters in achieving it. This isn't a one man job.
I agree with idontwannaname on the "insider sort of" job, but there aren't many people out there who are like that. Plus if that happens, we also need to take care of the fact that they won't go mad with power or stress. I think, what we should do is, if we do what idontwannaname said I think we should make a poll and vote on who we think would be the best person for the job. That way the community knows the person well and trusts their instinct.
Regards,
PaTt.
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A lot has gone down since Rymich got it but I think that we can get this server up like the way it was with just a bit of commitment from everyone. It seems like many people are complaining a lot but not many people are doing anything to help.
If we at minimum get this forum post up and going to atleast make even the slightest chance of a start to what we are heading for, I reckon we would be able to do it. But, like I said, we will need a ton of supporters in achieving it. This isn't a one man job.
I agree with idontwannaname on the "insider sort of" job, but there aren't many people out there who are like that. Plus if that happens, we also need to take care of the fact that they won't go mad with power or stress. I think, what we should do is, if we do what idontwannaname said I think we should make a poll and vote on who we think would be the best person for the job. That way the community knows the person well and trusts their instinct.
Regards,
PaTt.
The player would also NOT have to scare players. Not to offen any moderators or admins, but you show up to a group a people, and it's kind of like talking to the police, their scared. We need someone who can hit both sides. Able to be moderator-like when needed, like if someone filed a /report, but immature and crazy enough, to party and have fun with the players, so that they feel more friendly towards whoever is chosen. This would open them up, They would want to talk. That is what we need.
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Before asking suggestions you all should better clean the shit that the server has came into.
And putting a board for asking people to see who wants to be an admin, I think there is a reason admino handpicked the admins.
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Before asking suggestions you all should better clean the shit that the server has came into.
And putting a board for asking people to see who wants to be an admin, I think there is a reason admino handpicked the admins.
I think the idea is "what do you want fixed"
As for admino picking admins, I really agree with that.
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Ok...get ready.
Trial mods
From ownige's post I could already tell it wasn't going to work. If anything I think the admins/mods should consult about who should be a good trial all-together. Then the players can decide out of the three or whatever who would be the best.
- They cannot suggest another player
- Whining will not be accepted in the post (no, Why couldn't I be picked, why them, etc)
- They have to put a good post of why they think their choice is that person. (no meh he was nice, or, he never did anything bad)
One fact is that, as sly said once "a big part of what makes a server is the staff" and that is completely true. The biggest problem in my opinion is that people did not like the current trial staff. And that has brought some annoyance.
Players
Players. Now this is honestly not fun for me to say. but I'm a bit disappointed in how pathetic this place is getting, part of it is from most of us.
Yes we got new owners and the problem isn't that the server is getting a bit messed up it's that there's more crying than helping. I have heard nothing but people whining about updates and houses than anything and no player has actually been taking action to help.
If anything make a collab to advertise WoS, stop bitching for at least two seconds to at least wait for an update. this is World of Stunting and when Admino left it became the local daycare center. now please do something or don't whine
The people never left ok? one or two people decided to quit, if you were really here for WoS you couldn't say your leaving because of the changes. You would be leaving because you didn't have the 2 or 3 mill like before.
Admino (new), Hidden Conn, Nka & D3ll
These four are the current caretakers of WoS,
Admino - He's gotten on the server a few times still checking in.
Hidden Conn - He's been making updates left and right on the server for us
D3ll - He's made changes on the forums that puts helps us out more.
Nka - Well all know the badass WoS stunter
They've made changes around here and so no you can't say you've never heard of them.
The point is WoS isn't going down from the new owners it's going down from how the players are acting.
People are saying WoS is screwed from a couple of happenings and the only thing I have seen anyone say is
Give it time
So will it be the players who kill World of stunt, or save it?
+ZealousR+
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This topic could easely be a novelle...
Anyway I agree with zealous, but... Why can't they suggest another player?
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I agree that players are ruining WOs, not the staff, but I still don't like the voing ideas. People WILL whine, and cry, and people WILL try to impress the staff. I know I've made "If you wanna make admin, give admino a blow job" jokes before, in fun, but this joke is gonna be a reality if it comes to voting. Players are going to start spelling right, and doing everything they can to be chosen, then when they arn't, they will whine and cry. The staff should make the desicions on moderators.
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You will not see any sort of "Voting" for Administrators, Moderators, or Trials. Becoming part of the staff requires certain skills, and when the time is right, we shall pick upon one that we see that qualifies.
Voting for staff is out of question.
Blame cannot be put on either the staff, or the players, as change is hard for everyone to overcome, and this is what we are trying to accomplish currently.
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Good. Voting would be a bad idea anyway.
Offtopic: Way to go Riki only 7 posts till 1337 xD
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Kay.
Sorry for the bump, but I must disagree with you Riki and the others.
You say that in order to earn the responsibility to be a moderator, you must have a certain skill. But how can YOU see if a fellow WoS user has that specific skill, if most of YOU guys are mostly AFK all the time? You should be ready to confront any reports and stuff, if you're going to be afk, at least /q.
But on the contrary, I'm not supporting the idea of voting, since it will create major doubts and such in the server, rising the chances of the server failing once again.
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I think you should add a special job wich makes you get for example 20k i know its alot but for example a really long mission so you DO deserve that 20k for example your a weapon dealer and you have to DRIVE to 15 peaple that want weapons and your car should be a jester and you should drive pretty long to get to the peaple wich it will probably take 3 mins or 5 mins to get to 1 person thats what i suggest
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Kay.
Sorry for the bump, but I must disagree with you Riki and the others.
You say that in order to earn the responsibility to be a moderator, you must have a certain skill. But how can YOU see if a fellow WoS user has that specific skill, if most of YOU guys are mostly AFK all the time? You should be ready to confront any reports and stuff, if you're going to be afk, at least /q.
But on the contrary, I'm not supporting the idea of voting, since it will create major doubts and such in the server, rising the chances of the server failing once again.
I fail to see the problem with AFK admins. Yes I can understand it being a problem if they are AFK for hours on end. But if it's just for a few minutes while staying at the computer, at least they can watch the chat and watch for flamers, spammers, and reports.
Just remember, if an admin is labeled afk by the server, that doesn't mean they aren't watching the chat!
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Kay.
Sorry for the bump, but I must disagree with you Riki and the others.
You say that in order to earn the responsibility to be a moderator, you must have a certain skill. But how can YOU see if a fellow WoS user has that specific skill, if most of YOU guys are mostly AFK all the time? You should be ready to confront any reports and stuff, if you're going to be afk, at least /q.
But on the contrary, I'm not supporting the idea of voting, since it will create major doubts and such in the server, rising the chances of the server failing once again.
Even if I wanted too, it would be to thin of a line to describe the required skills, if not impossible. As Brosch had stated above, Administrators are ALWAYS watching the chat, and are in game, whether you know it or not, we are actually quite active in ways that help improve YOUR - the users - playtime on the server, and social forum time on the forums.
I do see what you are saying, but it's not always what it seems.
In Regards,
-Rikimaru
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Okay,
Couple of things i just want to get sorted.
1) AFK moderators. Okay Ultimate you said we are not moderating if we are AFK, I think you will find that at least 1 moderator is always ONLINE on the forum, so you could report there, NOTHING IS STOPPING YOU!
2) Even if the moderator is AFK, For example me if i go AFK i always check my chat just to see if their were any reports, Flaming, and i join back to the server and scroll up just to check if i missed anything.
As moderators we have limited time to play on the server as 95% of our time online is spent moderating and yes as we took the job we understand that comes with it. I am just saying so you can understand.
Anyway there is always a online moderator anyway, currently we have so many moderators it is getting impossible to find a time where a moderator isn't online.
This one is for you GrandY
Okay, This is in my opinion and has no regards to weather we add this function or not. I think if you are thinking of giving 20K as a paycheck for ONE job, it has to be the equivalent of doing 10 trucker jobs cos that is how long it MUST be to make it work. We get people doing these high paid jobs cos they want to make money faster. So why not just do Pilot 20 times, Where you can make a lot more money and still have more time. The job you suggested would be far too time consuming too. Also i don't really want WoS economy to get that rich again!
Thanks JJT17